DarthHollis

The amp channel and FX switching on the 5150 III series is kind of proprietary. It's not simple like most amps. RJM makes a few products that would help but I would highly recommend using MIDI. Midi really is much easier once you program the 5150. I used the Helix with my 5150 III 50 watt for years.

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First thing I would recommend is picking a midi channel and program change that you will use with your 5150 III. Then you program that and have the amp learn it for each channel. I use Midi channel 1 and green channel is program change 1, blue is 2 and red is 3. You can use whatever you want but this makes it super easy any time I'm creating new patches in the stomp or HX FX. If you are sending multiple the program changes when the amp is learning (like to other midi devices) it may confuse the amp and future programming may not work correctly. Using edit may be a little easier. Go to command center. Pick a snapshot, there is a drop down at the top. I will say 1 will be clean/green channel, 2 will be crunch/blue, and 3 will be the red channel. You want to use the Instant Commands which are the lightning bolts. Just click on one of them. You can only have so many per preset. HX FX has 6. Now on the right side choose Command - Bank/Program. Then below that choose Midi Channel 1. Skip down to program and change that to 1. When you click on snapshot 1 you are now sending a message to change to program 1 on midi channel 1. Don't expect your amp to change yet. Now repeat for the other channels. Change to snapshot 2, click on a lightning bolt, then Command - Bank/Program, midi channel 1, and change program to 2. Change to snapshot 3, click on a lightning bolt, then Command - Bank/Program, midi channel 1, and change program to 3. Now save the preset. Still don't expect it to work. I always recommend going to another preset and back to the original preset first. You have a basic preset now that you can use to program the 5150 to learn that Program change 1 is green channel, etc. Put your 5150 in learning mode (look at the manual). As you teach the 5150 just use each snapshot once and then get out of learning mode. Now your patch should change the channels when you change snapshots. If you go to a snapshot that has not Instant commands nothing will happen.

Approximate, yes, but you can't duplicate. That's because each guitar is playing a different inversion of the chord. I tried every way from Sunday and I don't believe it can be done easily. This will be a bit of a music lesson. Here's the reason why: First chord played is Bm (B, F#, D). One guitar is playing D, B, F# and the other guitar is playing the harmony of F#, D, B. The first two notes you can harmonize but the last note you can't. You need a harmonizer that can be set to chords, not to scales. The intervals cannot be set. A Bm scale won't work. The Helix doesn't have a pentatonic scale, I thought that might work for this chord, but it does not. Bm pentatonic would be B, D, E, F#, A. So when you played a D the harmony would be F#, then B would be E (not D), and F# would be B. So pentatonic would not work for the second note. Second chord is F#7 (F#, Bb, C#) and is a similar thing. One guitar is playing C#, Bb, F# and the other guitar is playing E (the 7th), C#, Bb. The last notes are F# and Bb (the root and major 3rd). You would have to change the scale between notes, not just chords. The only way I can think of to do this is using the whammy feature so you can whammy just that note. That's just the first two chords. The next 6 chords are similar in complexity. Anyway, if anyone figures it out I give you major cudos!!!!! Good luck.

If you unplug the footswitch the FX loop on the 5150 should remain on automatically. I have that amp and have used it with the Helix, HX Stomp, and HX effects. If you want to turn the FX loop off, you will need to send midi messages. I can help with that if you need it but I will need to do a little research. You will also need to send a midi message for turning it back on, which seems like a hassle.

Here is my list of advice from going that route for several years. Use external pedals that take up a lot of DSP in the Helix like a Drop Pedal or reverb. If you use lots of different reverbs you may want to make it Midi. Don't put any pedals in the FX loops of the Helix that will go before a dirty amp. They add noise to the signal and you may need to use additional gates. After a dirty amp is fine. If you use external pedals like a wah or Drop just put those in front of the Helix. It can be hard not to buy new pedals. Leave space. If you find a unique pedal that you like treat yourself. For example, the wahs in the Helix are good but none compare to my Jerry Cantrell or EVH wahs. Make sure your Helix is protected and that you have a backup. Even drunk bandmates can be a threat and cause catastrophe. Enjoy and have fun with it.

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Thanks guys. All I needed to do was turn down the input volume on the Studio 1810c. I still have no idea what I'm doing.

I just bought Helix Native and I am using Studio One. I have no idea what I am doing. How do I mute the original guitar signal so that I only hear what is going through Native while I play? Right now I hear both.

I do boost the send +3dB but that's all. I use 30 ft cables, so maybe that makes a little difference.

You should use an IR or cab block. There is no thing as power amp simulation in the Helix so just a cab or IR is the best you can do. The power amp does change the tone a bit but all you can do is mess around with EQ to get it to work. Your best bet might be to get a Torpedo Captor X or similar if want to use the 5153 to record. It's expensive, but you have to think of it as an investment. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TorpedoCapX16--two-notes-torpedo-captor-by-reactive-loadbox-di-and-attenuator-16-ohm 100-watt reactive load box allows you to play your guitar amp without a speaker cabinet.

Use the Headphones out of the 5150. When using the headphones out you don't need to be connected to a speaker. A tube head normally has to be connected to a speaker cab/load or you could ruin it. I did a wet/dry/wet set up just using the FX send into the Helix. Dry signal back to the 5150 and we signal going stereo into 2 power cab +. That sounded pretty good.

The EVH switching is "proprietary" so it does not work well with other switchers. You may be able to get it to work with an RJM product. Eddie had it designed to be seamless and as noiseless as possible. I would highly recommend using Midi to switch channels. It is very easy once you get the hang of it and works great for me. I am using the 5150 III 50 watt and the Helix Floor. I switch channels per snapshot.

I did this with my 5150 III 50 watt and two power cab + speakers. It was different than what you seem to want to do but your plan is totally doable with Helix. I used the 5150 and it's cab as a dry signal and as my main tone. It's actually 4CM but no post effects are going back to the FX return of the amp. I split the signal after the FX loop in the Helix so the stereo FX post the amp go out to the Power Cab + and they have cab sims built in but you can add that to the Helix also. I uploaded a patch to CustomTone that should work for you. 5150 3 4CM+FRFR I set it up so the XLR outputs will go to your FRFR speakers and the 1/4" out will go back to the FX return of the amp. My name on there is DarthHollis. https://line6.com/customtone/profile/DarthHollis/ Let me know if you have any question.

Donkelly, you are correct. If he's still hearing the original (dry) note of the guitar then something is wrong.